14-Jun-2003 -- After getting a couple hours of sleep in Williams, AZ, I took the Perkinsville Road south from town (4th St in town). I was driving a rental car and opted for insurance. It was an Oldsmobile Alero and it rough-roaded better than I thought it would. But once the ruts got deep enough it started bottoming out. I stopped and starting walking to a rendezvous point. I met up with Chris (new found friend thanks to Uwe) and we rough-roaded it to the end of the dirt road. We both had Magellans; his is much better. But we were getting readings only a few meters apart. Backpacks ready, we proceeded toward the confluence. Pants are a must or my legs would have been raw. Ripped a couple holes in my shirt. Except for the brush, the way toward the confluence was not that bad. We approached the confluence and found it about 400 feet down a cliff. It was here we got the closest in our hike. Without rope, there was no way down the cliffside. On our way back down the saddleback I took the first picture shown and the second one looking out toward the SW. We tried going around the saddleback through a wash but found that it was just as steep. We determined that the only other hiking way of getting to the confluence was from the bottom up. We hiked back to the truck and I picked up the car and went on to my second attempt, 36N 113W.